SG is a cleaner , not a prep. Keep using this stuff on the old set till I get my new set then switch to something else?? You can make your own tire softener at home by combining a number of ingredients. best tire prep formulas for go-kart racing. Freshly coated tires that come into contact with a wet environment could render the tire prep ineffective and also prolong the drying process. If youre on a new set of go-kart tires, you should think about scuffing them. Grinding uses a grinding or sanding wheel to remove a thin layer of rubber from the entire tread surface. Speedy 500 can applied externally in coats with a brush or if(MSFPhover) { MSFPnav12n=MSFPpreload("_derived/Lube-brake.htm_cmp_needforspeed010_hbtn.gif"); MSFPnav12h=MSFPpreload("_derived/Lube-brake.htm_cmp_needforspeed010_hbtn_a.gif"); } Next take the rags soaked in kerosene and wrap them around the tires. You may have a right rear thats within a degree or two of 220 degrees all across its tread but a left rear thats uniformly 200 degrees across its treadthats fine because those tires are under different loads. As previously explained, the lower the bite of a track, the more tire prep formula you should apply. Thats why you see dimples or holes molded into the tread blocks of sprint car tiresnot to add traction, but to help keep those blocks cooler., Arment: [In WISSOTA,] we can groove the outside edges of the tires on the modifieds. Item Name: Tire Treatment #12 Wintergreen - Quart Soak the tires in water first. If you retain any of your tire softening mixture, be sure to label it appropriately. For this guide we will use the widely popular HT3 Maxxis tires. The drying process can take around 24 48 hours so its best to leave it at least 48 hours to dry. The most common scuffing tool is a handheld belt sander. Dirt in comparison to traditional race track surfaces offer very low amounts of traction. I dont really care about the grinding patternI just want that shiny surface off the tread., Kent Arment, WISSOTA 2001 late model and modified champion, 2004 late model champion, 2005 modified champion: I use a 60-grit and try to make the tops of the blocks flat across the surface of the tread. You would have to get with s chemist to know exactly what they are doing to the tire. Google tire prep and some of those product names and spend the next 3 -4 days reading threads and you will have several options to think about. What we willingly pay for is the advise and knowledge of the guys we buy from. Follow the manufacturer's recommendations on the product label. Acrysol tends "Throttle till you see God, then brake like hell". Its for exactly what you discribing. Good driver .new tires.we are fast. What prep and how would you recommend for a clay but sandy track track. Im sure youve noticed that go-kart tires are smooth, compared to normal car tires. So I figured I should keep using the same stuff. Testing with a pyrometer immediately after a run to see if temperatures are relatively equal across the tread would provide quantitative evidence to support his seat-of-the-pants opinions. NMP is relatively environmentally friendly. However, it still works very well if you follow the recommended instructions from the manufacturer. You can either use a spray, a brush or a roller. Try spraying them down with a decent amount of wd40 the. That outer grooving seems to help the tire fire faster when were really hammering the corners and the tires are rolling over a lot., Norris: Study your tires after a race. Generally, we use 30cc to 60cc inside prep in the summer months, 60cc to 90cc in the spring and fall, and 90cc to 120cc in the winter. My attitude is that Im always there to win, and Im not going to let a few cents worth of rubber keep me from giving my driver the best car I can., Johnson: It makes a difference if you wash your tires between race nights. Grooving is a third form of mechanical tire preparation that uses a special heated tool to cut additional grooves in a tires tread. You can use purple it works pretty well for my family. Mix together a solution composed of 1/3 acetone, 1/3 mineral spirits and 1/3 transmission fluid. Either way, I'd give it several hours to soak in (so obviously do this before 6 o'clock Sunday night). Well he has started and I just fund his hobby. I believe theres a psychological aspect to tire prep. VP fuels makes a product called TireBite. You can pick whatever is most comfortable for you. All these softeners will weaken and eventually destroy a tire. VERY GENEROUS of you and your friend!!! If youre grinding a tire right, you see very little smokejust rubber dust., Hampshire: Some guys get real picky about grinding clockwise or counterclockwise patterns on their tires, depending if its a front or rear tire, maybe even whether its a right- or left-side tire. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework. You are using an out of date browser. soften the compound when used in a tire rotisserie. It may not display this or other websites correctly. As the surface of dirt isnt as firm as asphalt or concrete, a general rule you can use is to either apply an additional layer or increase the application amount by about 25 50%. to give other preps further saturation. It's a very versatile prep that can be cut and mixed with others as needed to seek a desired effect per track conditions. Fewer and shallower sipes, or even no sipes at all, are preferred for dry-slick conditions. When used wrong you are hurting your tires with SG, along with getting the dirt out of the pours your also taking the oils = grip out of the tire as well. let dry the follow up with GP or WG as normal. Speedway Illustrated sampled a range of dirt racing experts for their opinions about what works and doesnt work when it comes to mechanical tire preparation of dirt track tires. To make your tires sticky (get better grip) you will often need to use a foreign substance such as bleach, silicone spray, or WD-40 on your tires to "rough them up" this will allow them to be "sticky" and have much more grip. 00:00 00:00 Brought to you by Leaf Group Step 1 Protect your eyes and hands with the goggles and chemical resistant gloves. I've not used any myself to be able to speak to how well they worked. review our disclaimer. The guy I bought my son's kart from gave us tire prep that he used. So I figured I should keep using the same stuff. Most racers benefit more by focusing on their setup than being distracted by [mechanically prepping] tires, but Ill tell you what racers have told me: Sipes create heat. As a rgion, it encompassed the southeastern dpartements of Loire, Rhne, Ain, Haute-Savoie, Savoie, Isre, Drme, and Ardche. Thats why we sipe across the tread blocks on the rear tires, and around the circumference of the front tires., Harris: Siping doesnt change the tires durometer reading, but it helps make a medium-compound tire heat up and act like a soft-compound tire. When you need that additional bite Metal 3D printing has rapidly emerged as a key technology in modern design and manufacturing, so its critical educational institutions include it in their curricula to avoid leaving students at a disadvantage as they enter the workforce. Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.It's easy to join and it's free. Copyright 2003-2020 HDM Company & HDM Performance Parts All rights reserved. If your driver/son is young enough and you start now its possible youll have a homebrew that you can rely on for all the tracks (and their conditions) that will put you up front before you quit racing. This tire and rim setup will give approximately 1.25 to 1.5 front stagger, and .750 to 1 rear stagger. Never underestimate the psychological advantage of a driver knowing his tires have fresh, black treads and magical extra cuts or grooves in them. #tireprep #internaltireprep #tracktactiretreatnentsThe basics of how to get tire prep into a kart tire before rolling or rotisserie.I use Track Tac Tire Trea. Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Media. Frequently home brews use, diesel fuel, ATF, WD-40, wintergreen, Creosote or xylene. PM was sent and I replied to your other post. thanks guys ill have alook around see if i can get hold of some of this nmp. Sheet Metal now available. While many pre-mixed tire softeners are available for purchase on the market, they can be quite expensive. I know a handful of people who make their own prep. Say theres a D55 tire rule and the track is muddy for the heats. During the process, youll need to access all four tires easily and ensure that none of the tires have contact with the ground. Thread starter turtle5353; Start date Jun 17, 2015; T. turtle5353 Member. Post Located in a very diverse region rich in assets, not only geographically (relief, climate), but also economic and human, the Lyon-Grenoble Auvergne-Rhne-Alpes is the latest INRAE centre to be created. durometer considerably. // -->. Racing surfaces vary not only from track to track, but during a nights racing at the same track. for dirt i would use wintergreen on tires it cleans them and softens them. wd40 will drop the duro. The larger the tread block, the more it retains heat once it gets warmed up. Step 1: The best way to soften the tyres is by using kerosene. If your tires aren't sealed or glazed over, you can easily bring them down in the 30's. Goat pee, Krug, btgp, or Topaz will do the job easily. Acrysol can applied externally in coats with a brush or Look at the dozens of prep manufactures out there. For a while youre running on those little edges that roll over under pressure, and its like running on marbles. After youve scuffed your tires, ensure that there is no rubber residue left on the surface of the go-kart tires. Thanks. Mark. I make my own preps for use in a common set of conditions at my own track. That's all this set of tires has had on them since new. Close this window and log in. Thank you Bryan! Inside prep is used to break down the rubber so that the slick tread tires will grip the dirt/clay track surface. Works good for dirt and asphalt applications. You must log in or register to reply here. Generally, we use 30cc to 60cc inside prep in the summer months, 60cc to 90cc in the spring and fall, and 90cc to 120cc in the winter. Now wrap the tyres in foil and do not remove it until the day of the race. Well they are harder then they were last season. ": so reading all of the thread the only real chem that will attack rubber to soften it is this Methylnaphthalene i have looked this chem up does any body now if it is dear to buy in the uk ??? We have received your request and will respond promptly. There have been times when I had to run a brand-new, un-ground tire on the right rear, and I could definitely tell it took three or four laps longer for it to fire than the tires that were already ground and broken in., Norris: [You know] those deals where theres a crewman grinding tires between trailers, and you cant see the guy from all the rubber smokethats a bad deal. Login. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo.