If I charge my battery to 100% (58.8?) You can also decrease the start current. Good luck reprogramming your Bafang system! You can absolutely set the speed limit to 100 for all assist modes, also if you want just 5 levels. The software cant adjust gear ratios unfortunately. I dont use it and I like how quickly I can change gears not blocking the motor. We now can indeed confirm that the sport and normal mode are exactly the same on BBSxx systems except for the color :p. Thank you for this post! This way the throttle will always have a 100% current and speed limit, no matter the PAS level selected. Wow, a battery of 24Ah is massive, nice that you have such a battery! I have recently installed a BBS01 250, however when I try to change the settings like you described, I am unable to write them. I hope you will be able to fix it without a replacement though! Thanks a lot for your detailed comment/explanation. The low voltage cut-off will engage at 36V. The max speed you will hit in that assist level will then be dependent on the amount of power. 3. Is this correct or should I change it to 26 or leave as is? Normally the gear-sensor takes the load off, but when it comes back it sometimes happens. Not sure yet which specific type, but I will look that up tonight. You probably wont be able to change the top speed at all. You can also try to upload the file that I have configured for the 36V version. If you do this however, the pedal assist will also work. So you definitely dont have to worry about that. Its much appreciated! When you say pas 9 for safety reasons are you saying its safer to ride at full power on pas 9 than full power with the throttle only ? Your controller programming part is broken (have had this issue before, but unlikely). It can be bad if you wont pedal at all and let the motor do all the work with the throttle for example. This way, the throttle should give maximum power in all pas stages. City Bike Hi Clement, if can help you, i got the same problem, i installed the iobit driver booster software,(no sponsor off software, just worked for me), it update my bafang driver and worked. This might give you more control over your bike. 14- power off the battery TommyL. You should measure your battery voltage, to check if its right. You will be able to tune your bike exactly to your liking using this guide. What I was wondering though, before I start with anything, all the motors you mention in the guide are the Bafang mid motors. So in that case, the battery percentage indicator will be useless. You can use the same settings, you should still increment the power each level. I do not have the MAX PAS setting in the display. But maybe Herve can help you with this, I hope he/she can respond to you. You can go back. The level 0 is meant so that you can have the bike on, but without pedal assist or throttle. . Looking closer, the limit current setting is now 1. But most of the time this is the case, even though it is not always clearly stated. If you follow the steps of this video, are you then able to set it to 9? Yeah think u are right. I do not have PAS setting in the display. Regarding the parameters nothing more than what I said before. Therefore no pedal power is transferred to the bike. If thats the case it will be a waste of money. So I dont really see anything that you could do to fix it. Thank you. ist die Art der Programmierung auch bei einem Bafang M500 mglich? If you happen on settings that work for you, please share. 9 Plug in the programing cable (using the EB-BUS; one end of the EB-BUS is linked to the EB-BUS cable at the controller, and the display cable at the other end of the EB-BUS is linked to the programing cable); and Id like to use PAS in 5 stages, not 9. I can find no explanation about the difference between setting the Current Limit to 0 or 1. You can try to reset to your default settings, and see if it still happens. So you are free to change those to your likings, without effecting reliability. Tongsheng TSDZ2 vs Bafang BBS02 Which one is for you? This isnt really a setting that you can change. After 8 months of various tests I give you my configuration for my electric bike Fischer ETH1861, Bafang M400 motor, Battery 557 Wh 48V / 11.6 A Setting the speed limit to 100% doesnt mean that the motor will try to ramp up the speed indefinitely. Regards, Updated Download file to include profiles and PDF. ), Problem with the battery read out solved by flashing de motor firmware 48v. Did you save the factory settings? Make sure that you set the designated assist level in the throttle handle tab to 9. But even with the data sheet of the cell, the 20% voltage is not easy to find. Apart from that, I dont see any obvious reasons why it wouldnt work. What is your recommendation. This way you can alter the top speed on the display of your ebike. And is everything completely dead on the bike? Its good that I didnt touch anything than. About the Bafang Programming Resources: The BafangConfigTool.exe is in a zip file you can download on Penoff's Hobby Page and is a huge upgrade to the original configuration tool from Bafang. What current limit (A) i can put on the first page, I mean, what is the maximum number? If the amp limit is really low, the motor will then not be able to get you moving, which isnt great. In the config tool instructions 4th step, it says Plug in the battery of your e-bike (and turn it on). With that one the throttle works when the pedal assist is set to zero . This cable and software does not work with the Bafang M420. The executable did recognize the correct port. You now have successfully reprogrammed your Bafang system with custom settings. John. Like are all wires connected properly. elaborate it further? The throttle isnt working when the pedal assist is set to zero . However, I think I know what youre maybe going to suggest is it to change the chainring? But Id like a 5 PAS setting from 15 to 60 km/h. I found a wiring diagram with pin and voltage. Model: BBS3 So I have no clue why your display doesnt change the read out. In diesem Video zeigen wir euch, wie ein Firmware-Update am Bafang BBSHD Mittelmotor vorgenommen wird. What you should test is the following: Get a GPS speed app on your phone. . This is the newest and most updated Bafang display. So if you are not planning to ever use the Bafang BBSHD 1000+ watt power, I should buy a less powerful cheaper motor. I dont have any experience with programming the Bafang m400 motor. If it then does work, you then know for sure that your pc will not work for some reason. To obtain more torque with lower speed, I set these values in the BASIC card. Im new to the E-Bike Kit and have purchased a BBS02B, 750W and 52V battery. My display(500c) show 76% when the battery is full. If you want the pedal-assist to start the fastest when you just pedal a small bit, change it to 2. I have had a strange performing controller that I couldnt reprogramm either. This is a big deal to me because of all the very steep but short hills where I ride. thanks for you time and passion in sharing your experiences.My sole purpose to get a mid drive kit is so I can tow my 2 kids ( 7 year old and 5 year old) up the hills when we go mountain biking. You dont have to do such a speed hack for this. Hello may I ask why my Bafang SSB1 does not stop when I stop pedaling? Can you please let me know if I can use 48V without braking the controller or motor. So this setting can be handy for legal reasons. NOTE: Not all cables necessarily use the CP210x driver. The RPM at which the motor will operate at maximum efficiency is, in fact, way higher than the cadence (RPM) at which your own leg power will have the best efficiency. Apart from that, I dont see any obvious problems. You can always set the speed limit on the display to 25 km/h. So set this setting to the desired cruise control speed. So dont be to worried about it, if you always pedal along and use the throttle in short bursts (like you state) you will be absolutely fine. Like Eric mentioned it is very likely that Bafang will increase the . The level correspondence is really convenient to know, thanks for figuring this out. My problem with the BBSHD controller ! So such a mod doesnt make sense on the Bafang mid-drive, it isnt necessary. Is there any remedy? To my knowledge, its not possible to program any other motor than the Bafang mid-drives. Unfortunately your e-bike cannot be tuned. You should first fix this error. I recommend 10% because this is a safe setting. when I start gives very much power and speed I never heard about it. Would it work if I changed the speed limit of the secend tab(Pedal Assist) to 40 Km/h ?? So by setting the 9 assistance levels on the Settings in the first tab (Basic) I found that the Ebike responds perfectly on paved roads and on wide dirt roads, but when the paths become narrow and demanding if I enter level 4-5 to have more power the speed is too high to lead the Ebike safely. In your reply to me you stated that their is another controller for the M400 that will accept throttle. Can you direct me to this controller, I do have a tech that says he can program the controller for me. Thank you. The battery percentage indicator tends to be a bit inaccurate on the Bafang displays. You could also try a different pc/notebook, sometimes one works and the other doesnt. This is a safety feature designed to keep the battery in good health. Assist 6 -current limit 80 speed limit 70 Assist 8 -current limit 90 speed limit 50 Assist 9-current limit 100 speed limit 40 In this way on level 5 of the display I have the maximum current with a reduction in speed I also confirm that the two modes of the ECO / SPORT display are exactly the same except for the color change. The Bafang programming feature is ONLY for the Bafang mid-drive motors. Is this normal? Die Mglichkeit, dass Sie etwas braten, ist dann ziemlich hoch. But no connection to Bafang controler. Compatibility with BBS##B drives has been confirmed by many users now. The low voltage cut off doesnt affect performance. I do know that there doesnt exist a setting that you can change to fix this behaviour. So that would be really simple! It doesnt affect the controller itself, it cant run at 48V, it doesnt work like that. This setting will decide how fast the motor will stop assisting when you stop pedaling. Tuning the Bafang Controller with UNLOCKED firmware First Timers Cycling 834 subscribers Subscribe 114 8.9K views 10 months ago #CommissionsEarned #ftc_alvinandhiro #first_timers_cycling. It seems the max speed is the only thing they have been a bit restrictive with(40kmph). You can only transfer your pedal power to the bike, when you match the RPM of the motor. But it is possible to do. Most of the time, if something is wrong, the load function will not work either. I, however, do not recommend setting this to 25. Will it be ok to use the settings you provide or should i change anything else in the settings or reduce any of the settings? And do you have the BBS01, BBS02 or BBSHD motor? Therefore the display will think that the battery is less full when you are driving. Whenever I press write, nothing happens, and when I load again the numbers jump back to default. I know that will work with 30 amps. Good luck! Ready to program!!!! Video explaining how to update/flash your Bafang controller firmware. I have BBSHD motor and 48V battery. Thank you for this great guide, it really did help. Bafang does not publish any version info, and there is no way to flash/update the firmware in any event. de andere motoren doen die dat wel zoals de BBSHD. Assist level labels now say Assist, not Assit The current limit is not active when bike is not connected. So leave the low battery protection unchanged and set the current limit to 18A. Re: BBSHD Voltage Problem Firmware Update & Instructions Could you write a couple of words about service of the motor. 26 (to reflect the size of the drive wheel) so that i do not do damage to the motor? If the bike still shows weird behaviour with stock firmware, ebrakes and shift sensor removed it indeed probably will be a faulty controller. For the M400 there is only one controller to my knowledge, so if that one doesnt have the connector, then you are out luck. This process can be used to fix the error 30 code, unlock your controllers, and switch . Your programming instructions above are excellent im having problems with downloading the .ie file for the bshd 1000w motor. Avec cette configuration, encore quelques soucis : -coup parfois, et difficults de relance de niveau 2 3 voir 4. I have never heard of this issue before. Dit is normaal. There may be a lot of that back and forth till i get it right. I like pedal a lot and use assist by motor using only by throttle? There is a 36v sticker on the motor. My display 500c have different voltage setting ( 36, 48, 52) but all show 76% when the battery is full. I will keep looking and I will try another LCD. You should try and fix the problem of the error code first, before you try programming. All these settings that are recommended here are the same as in the configuration files above. You could set the battery indicator to voltage instead. I have encountered error codes 30 before, where the only fix was to replace the controller. I would however not worry at all about having only 5 assist levels. https://github.com/danielnilsson9/bbshd-fw/wiki/Configuration-Tool. Programming software - Available by signing up/logging in and then clicking on the Download button above. I have built many custom pedal bikes over the years and know a few things about bike building. This is just the limit of the bikes gearing, they were in the first place never designed to run at speeds above 50 km/h. But most of the displays wont be able to do this. Hey! It does not affect to the battery read out on the display that should be logical. My friend has the same bafang motor and his monitor shows percentage right (100%). Therefore it unfortunately will be impossible to get a throttle working on your bike. First 20 km it shows 100%, but then drops faster. Assume that performing any or all of these steps will invalidate any warranty you might have (might not, but, it could). 09-01-2019, 08:38 AM. battery: 52V 13AH If you have a mid-drive, there actually isnt a way to reprogram it to 52V. But in general, just keep the motor clean from the outside then it will not need a lot of maintenance on the inside for a long long time. Do I understand that the usable range in my battery to 100% to 41%? It is possible to get the throttle working in PAS 0. So if either of the above gives you even the slightest hesitation, stop reading and go ride. Hi, Thanks for all the effort you put forth to help everyone. If you have this same model, there will be no chance of increasing the top speed. Unfortunately, this system cannot be reprogrammed using the Bafang programming cable. So always move away from a standstill in the same gear as you would do normally without an electric motor assisting you. It would have been amazing if you could reprogram the hub motors as well. The bike will pedal like a normal push bike and when I use the throttle the motor starts. BBSHD mid drive 48V motor. This way you can test my settings, but if you dont like it. CRR10E4830E105001.1_190413-1.zip I just reprogrammed my controller so I need to test to make sure Im getting the correct power levels assigned to the 9 modes. So try default settings (back-up that you likely made), upload and test again. It definitely drops almost immediately like is related to a setting. So why your controller failed is not clear to me. Ich habe noch nie mit diesem Motor gearbeitet und wei auch nicht, ob dieser Motor mit der Bafang-Software neu programmiert werden kann. Will thry original software today. Definitely not the same as when at 50V etc.. Not sure where to look in the settings to adjust. I notice a lot of motor drag when trying to pedal without poweris that normal? If changing it in the menu really doesnt work, you will not have any other option of getting it to display the right %. all my normal mountain bikes run a 28 or 30 tooth front chain ring with 42 or 46 or 51 tooth cog at the back on the cassette. So it will probably have trouble connecting to it as well. it was a defective USB cable. Hi Giel, thanks for your fine work! Let me ask you one more question. 13- You should see the progress bar scroll across if it is successful. So this is not something I would recommend at all. If not, can you tell me the setting changes Ill need to make? Ive been a Mac guy for years so I had to dig up some old hardware. Name *. Im on a very old PC laptop running Windows 7. This is the case because the motor is loaded while you are riding on it. http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_d6qjlWU. If you want this, you should set the current limit on PAS 0 to a value different then 0 (depending on the power you want). I found a write up on programming the Ultra Max, which is Bafangs M600. I just installed the same setup, there are 5 eco levels and 5 sport levels. Now follow the following steps in order: You are now ready to start using the configuration tool. 2. Any other settings for this ports configuration. Can I keep the other suggestion values that you recommend in this post to improve my experience of riding, I usually use my bike for mountain terrains. I am not 100% sure though. If it is at around 42V, it will be nearly completely empty. Ein Kabeladapter von Higo F auf B hat nicht funktioniert. So overall your plan to set the current limits low, just cycle along as a strong cyclists, to maximize range, is a perfectly fine strategy! The set up you explained is the same? So to summarize: Throttle only mode isnt really possible without also having the pedal assist active. Thanks. Are you talking about maintenance of the Bafang motor? But I understand you need a smaller chainring. I prefer the Speeed program that works on my Android cell phone. 9d- connect round end of USB-serial cable to the connector you just disconnected LCD from You can select different voltages on most displays? With 12-14Ah, you could have some range anxiety ;p. The BBS02 750W will have more than enough power for you needs, the BBSHD definitely isnt necessary. When you are driving the bike, the voltage of your battery will drop due to the load of the motor. Last exit 50 km hilly, remaining autonomy 60 km. controller programming part is broken kindly elaborate, not sure if its a physical or software part, is it external to the bafang controller or inside the controller. I have a recumbent tricycle. (Higher start current). Good luck! In my opinion, you are better of with 5 even if you can choose 9 as well. I am sure you will find a setup that will work for you. But I dont recommend setting it higher than 4. Although this one is hard to change on an existing bike, bigger wheels also improve cadence. You cant damage the motor or controller by setting the amp limits to low values. 7 Change the settings for Max Baud to 57600 and Input IRC frequency to 18.432 Mhz I also noted on the new controller the throttle is working the way most people want to operate (smooth control of throttle on all Pas settings) Bafang must have gone back to original firmware that was there pre 2017 . or i can get more range with your programming settings? Otherwise it will not work. Is it possible the Bafang controller in the motor is defective? While riding you dont have to worry about the low current limit and high-speed (100%) limits. This will also imply that you will reach really high speeds in low assist modes. I did some more research. If you want to pedal along at all times, this will limit the maximum speed of your bike to your own maximum cadence. He has responded in this comment section as well with some tips on this. What you need to check though is if the cut-off voltage in the programming software is set to the correct value. . HI Giel, First of all, thank you so much for your post, its very useful. What I got instead is really slower than that and it could not be the power limit since the motor has almost no load. Setting those values to 0 will just not work. Its strictly a feature of the mid-drives. If you decrease it even more, the pedal-assist wont work at all anymore for some reason. But if you would like to have throttle in PAS 0, change the current limit of that assist level in the Basic tab. If you do this however, the pedal assist will also work. I apologize for bothering you at this hour, but I have a problem with my bbs02 750w engine ..I used this engine on a Rockrider 27.5 bike and after a few months the error 30 appeared on the display. The number on my motor are CR R209.350.SN.U 5.0 The 500c display only has up to 5 PAS levels. Ich kann Ihnen leider nicht mit Ihrem M500 Motor helfen. But again, I find that limiting the maximum speed by limiting the current makes more sense. Any tips how i could change this via the programming tool? These are actually one of the biggest batteries that you can buy for diy purposes. This could be the reason for the error code 30 as well. Thats really unfortunate. Add Comment I would be retrofitting this to a legit mountain bike one of my bikes is a hard tail with a legit front fork, legit hydraulic disc brakes and 1 x 10 shimano drivetrain. Dank je Giel voor het snelle antwoord. The third option is to buy a new controller that does except 52V batteries. So Im stuck with only 5 power levels? Enjoy your e-bike anyway! A 17Ah or 13Ah will definitely not give the same range, at the same speeds. I also have never had my hands on such a motor, so I unfortunately cannot tell you anything about programming that specific motor. I used your settings and everything went well. Als ik het eggrider v2 display aanschaf, kan ik dan wel die 2 modes configureren? BBS02A - No idea, not tested, not recommended to try unless you have an already bricked controller. Bafang BBS02 Review Is it really that good? Sorry if my question sound beginner, I am new in this word. If you accidentally hit the throttle while the bike is on and in assist 0, the bike wont fly off. Only increase the settings in small steps and do intermediate test. UPDATE: A hacker from Norway named Penoff used the source code and completely rewrote the Bafang programming software. What settings do I tweak differently for 36V, 500W, 25A, BBS02? You can adjust all other settings to my recommendations in this post. On my first bbshd motor with the settings of 1% ,1% and 9 I am able to get throttle only in pas zero without any pedal assist. The problem with this is that you cant pedal along in low gears since the cadence of your own pedaling would need to be really high. 9a- Turn off ebike batterys power switch If you want higher acceleration you can set this value to 20 or 30. If your throttle responds jerky, you can try setting this to speed. Now I can no longer connect to the controller with pc and when I connect controller back to the screen I get an error code 30. Ik kan deze eco en sport mode helemaal niet terugvinden in de configuratietool op mn laptop. There was a problem preparing your codespace, please try again. The Bafang motor is meant to be a closed system. Hello, I have the Bafang BBS02 750 Watt 48V. Assist 2 -current limit 100 speed limit 100- so full power. Any Giel thanks again for listening and I hope this might help people avoid the silly mistakes I made on working with the BSSHD unit I recommend current since this is easier to calculate by your controller. Thank you for your advise. Controller CR X10B.250.SN.U 3.0 A list of ebike & bicycle acronyms & definitions to help out new members! Best regards Franco Rametti Mail franco@ica-net.it. Download How to fix this problem? Many thanks for the help. Have you ever check if these settings are also applicable to the Bafang Max Drive M400? I expect that the settings are set correct, in that case the bike behaves like it should.
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