Looking at Appalachia | Robert Gumpert | Walk your We only periodically had a movie theater, the fabulous Margie Grand in Harlan. Help me out with what category to look at to fi the hitchhiking story. My brother actually had a knife pulled on him at Cawood. I wonder why they went to Harlan to get married. The hills and hollers made me who I am today and the people I love still call Eastern Kentucky home. Harlan County, Kentucky That brings back fond memories. Our teeth arent all that bad, although mine arent great. I was raised on Rhea straight, where the old airport was. I plan to continue reading your blog. Ruby did you know a family named Clark? They dont say that because of my accent, since I only have one when I go back there. I lived in Harlan for many years just ended up there one day and loved it and stayed I was not born or raised there just lived Place is wonderfull Im 25 so I would love to go back I call it home I feel home there I moved bout a year ago to Indiana. The economy continues to contract and isnt likely to get much better. I have always considered Harlan my second home. I live in Nashville now, it seems like everyone here know someone from Harlan. . Sweet. We used to sprinkle sugar over the cheese, before grilling them! The other side was the Lounge, a long, narrow open room with a dance floor. My Uncle Ralph Leonard was Pastor at the Baxter Methodist Church before it was moved. I am a faithful Kentucky Basketball fan and follow them year in and year out, through good and bad GO BIG BLUE.. John, this is really good stuff! I spent a lot of hours and burned up a lot of powder and boot leather grouse hunting in Pathfork and Black Star. I go there to visit, and it has improved somewhat, but I like my central Ky home in LaRue county much better. Theyre usually the folks who dream of turning all of Eastern Kentucky into a massive tourist destination by having all the people who live there pack up and move. Then it was quiet except when the trains ran, which seemed like every 15 minutes or so. Interview with Lois Scott, August 27, 1986 SPOKEdb And so do I. I know all those places. His name was Wiley Holmes. Your mother was my teacher at Hall High for four years. It has always been home for me. Btw, the Mount Victory part of this county feels very Eastern KY. Just found the blog and enjoyed it. He told me if I stayed there I would either be an alcoholic, like him to survive, or I would end up dead. Although I left Harlan County in 1968, and grew up in Florida, I am still proud to say, I am from Harlan County! The motel next to Holy Trinity was a Holiday Inn Express at one time, but now its a Comfort Inn. I believe they graduated for there on 83. It rated right up there with his song about Jim and Tammy Baker, pretty good actually. Ive also been criticized for making Eastern Kentucky sound too goodand that came from a guy who lives there! There are a couple of places to stay, and theyre okay. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times . Who are we? I have no information on a Clarence Leonard in our family tree. Mrs Abraham was my Home Ec teacher @Hall High. If we meet anyone else from Eastern Kentucky, we can get instant acceptance with a simple I grew up in Harlan. Translation: Despite appearances, I will kill you if necessary. its more home to me than anywhere ever will be. . Thanks for reminding me of a great memory of my mother! I grew up in Wilhoit and went to Loyall High for the first part of my freshman year, then moved to Indiana, but I still go back to Harlan often, my sister still lives there. wilson combat magwell p320 The folks in Brookside were surely Harlan Countians as was the chief gun thug, Basil Collins. Very isolated. None of my schools still exist. People were practically hanging on it. My dads cousin J.R. Williams owned a shoe shop (cobble shop) in Cumberland. I went from a county of about 35,000 people spread over 1,000 square miles to a campus of 20,000 + crammed into a few blocks. On this criterion, Robertson County would qualify, but again, its just too far north. It reeked of Pine Sol. One of the only times I used my dads reputation, telling the guy to go ahead but it was going to be his last night on Earth, because if I didnt kill him, my dad would. Mikes Drive In was in Loyall. I knew the Clarks well. In fairness, many went to both joints. My Dad was a coal miner, was on oxygen from 2007 until 2010. When Sheriff Doc Gray? Still consider Harlan County as home. If its hard, its hopeless. All thats left is the yard and that light. Myself, Im from Loyall which is three miles from the town of Harlan. Thanks. I can connect with outlanders here in Georgetown by telling them, I was there the day that McDonalds opened..great times! Really enjoyed the article. https://www.facebook.com/groups/WallinsCreekers/. Weve been in the Lexington area since then, but we still say back home when we are talking about Neon and Jenkins. So you see, all of this rambling I have just done is to state the obvious because you have made us sound like we are backwoods, unlearned, in-bred no accounts. He made shoes. We still have relatives in the area. Hes married married to one of my first cousins for many years. I still get over through there for work sometimes. You havent had a grilled cheese sandwich until youve had one made with govment cheese, govment butter and fresh Bunny Bread. You have to sound like us. I live in Lexington now as well have since 1990. They pity Harlan. I went back through my Ancestry.com files and I found 2: Clarence Leonard, born 24 May 1914, Walker County, AL and died 27 July 1985 at Corbin, KY, it shows he had no wife or children, and his father was John D. Leonard and his mother was Jeanette McKendrick Leonard. Daughter of a preacher. I guess you can tell by my rant that I CANNOT stand anyone putting this beautiful part of Gods earth down. Most OUTSIDE THE COUNTY shopping, doctors visits, etc were in Tennessee Bazel Collins - IMDb We mourn with the family of Basil Collins for this great loss. We drive Chryslers, BMWs, Honda Van, Subaru sports car, Chevy pick-up, Harleys, Hondas, Yamaha V-stars-4-wheelers. http://www.kentuckytourism.com/places_to_stay/holiday-inn-express/73/ just saying. So please you out landing, loathing spectator, Keep your thoughts on the area you live in now, and the goings on there, we dont need or want you perspective of the people that actually live, work and die here. And of that i am very proud. Are we still allowed to be in Appalachia? I have many relatives there, but Ive been gone since I graduated from high school in 1979, when my family moved to Corbin. So if you have a iota of respect for you mom and dad, grandma and grandpa you will correct this mess and actually write something that isnt from fifty years ago. The first of the month is a big time in Harlan. Go help someone else. Loyallalso had a theaterthe Roadenuntil I was about 6 years old. And hell, I was taken at knife-point down into the creek at Hall when I was in 6th grade. Raised up on Happy Top, Back Street and Creechs. If I go back to Harlan for even a day, even my family cant understand me when I get back. I was born in Harlan County, Louellen specifically, but moved away when I was little due to my dad being in the Navy. It was the latest violent incident in I couldnt quit reading it. I was born and raised in Sunshine. Were about the same age. SO neat to see my family talked about on here! Thank you so much for this, it came at a time when I needed to count my blessings, and being born in Liggett, and raised in Pansy, I truly was blessed. A rural county of 27,000, Harlan Countys average household income is about $29,000. Small town life can be hard or easy. I feel blessed to have grown up in Harlan, at a time when people actually cared about each other, and would not trade it for anything!! Born and raised in Harlan, graduated from HHS in 1974, and UK in 78.went to work in Washington DC.talk about culture shock! WebShe talks about people being beaten or threatened, and houses and families being shot at. I used to try and derail the presumptions, now I just embrace them. Brings back so many memories. But you also are basically running down the place you were born. I was born in Pike Co. in 1960 and in my 53 yrs. I am a born and raised harlan countian. ha! There were several Leonard families in the county in my day. I was born and raised in Harlan County-Cumberland. I guarantee you that my Dad knew your father. One guy said we were like Indians who left the reservation. Id love to learn more about the people, especially on the other side of the strike. I REMEMBER govt. My uncle Clarence still lives in Ky. My mother and her Sister Yuvonne live in TN. Enjoyed the article. Your article is awesome! Edit. We like that its called Bloody Harlanby some folks even though that name is based upon events which occurred 70 years ago. I married a Lady, born and raised in Harlan. I left first to attend Cumberland College, then only a two year school, and later was forced to leave and gravitate north for employment. We got segregation in those years, and I never knew the difference, we all got along. Harlan Countians like Justified. my husband was raised knowing your dad and all your family I love your blog. Dad was a good friend of Norman Yarboroughs. Why turn here, I ask? My Mom and grandparents are gone now but I have always continued to visit with relatives in Harlan every summer. Construction on the house beat the power company by a few years. Harlan County, U.S.A. (1976) captures the story of strike conducted by the United Mine Workers of America Local Union in Harlan County, Kentucky. Basil Collins is recorded in slow motion firing a gun at the camera while members of the strikebreakers beat Ms. Kopple and her crew. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. You went up 119 to the Loyall turnoff, and youre absolutely right: Any Harlan Countian who turns the corner at Pineville changes languages! This is the first time I stumbled across you blog. . We still miss it! but was always glad to talk to her by phone. It was originally the Bays Motel. Singing man in the beginning. If he called on you and you missed the questionBOOM! Others leave to find better opportunities. what happened to basil collins She graduated from Cumberland High School. Keep writing as I do enjoy it. Ring any bells? Did you live here? | Coal Troll's Blog. It might have been the wrong side of the tracks, but I knew some good folks from there. What Mountains besides the one on the border with Virginia, Black Mt.(?)? If we had a problem like that today in my slice of Suburbia, there would be a full-blown panic. I didnt mean to turn my comment into a mini blog, but you inspired the flood of memories! My best friend (not from Harlan) went to Saudi Arabia as a traveling nurse. Now, far in the past, at least until I visit. Look at my blog post Adventures in Hitchhiking, and youll see a story about JImmy picking me up hitchhiking one night. She talks about elections I cant read some of these posts because of the negative way they talk about MY hometown. Oh, well. It is classified as a moist countya county in which alcohol sales are prohibited (a dry county), but containing a "wet" city, in this case Cumberland, where package alcohol sales are allowed.In the city of Harlan, Her husband had been killed during the war. Ive been gone for 20+ years now. Harlan is quiet, unless you grew up near the railroad tracks like I did. IM RETIRED AND LIVE IN TN NOW BUT I GO BACK TO HARLAN ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH. 360NG - Basil Collins Harlan County Obituary - Facebook We knew Jimmy Meeks very well. It tends to work to my advantage. Didnt know him well, but I remember him. John I grew up in Sunshine too. You probably know others of my family, like my sister Lisa, that worked at the Enterprise for years and now works for Corrections and lives in Georgetown; or my cousins that went to James A.Cawood, Ruth Ann and Gary Cox. Im fortunate that my job regularly takes me to Eastern Kentucky. I was born, raised and still live in Pike County. I have been told that he worked harder than 3 men. HARLAN WILL ALWAYS BE HOME TO ME. I will say Harlan is a great place to be from, I would not want to raise my kids there because of all the struggles I went through, and all the people I knew while growing up there. (LogOut/ I made the mistake of posting a picture of Basil on a Harlan County Facebook page. Harlan County, U.S.A. is not a traditional documentary in any sense of the word. .I didnt think to ask them while they were alive. We have corresponded back and forth for several years about our Leonard connections. Director Barbara Kopple lived among the miners families and captures an intimate portrait of a movement. Grew up in Sunny Acres, now across from the mall. My grandfather was the engineer that laid out most of the old County roads, was one of the 10 founders of the Harlan Country Club, and my dad owned the Tway Tipple for yearsyes, coal will always run in my veins! https://thetrivialtroll.com/2012/03/10/adventures-in-hitchhiking/. I have all the respect in the world for the good people in Harlan county its rough with mines getting shut down and people loosing what they know best and thats coal Im sorry it rough that is a reason I moved but keep strong everyone in Harlan has a big heart and I promise they are some the best people u ever meet in ur life. Maybe its the camo/orange. A mouthy little man like me finds out the hard way that bad is good, but big is better. And they were well respected. 6. I dont think I have an accent but get me out of Pike County and they all say I do. If you ever lived in Harlan you have been gone so long you dont know what the hell is going on. The obvious beingwe are just like you and every one else. We hiked deep into the woods for good sled trails in the winter. Now, sadly, its a way of life in the mountains. Geelong. My first trial was in Elliott County. Rapist who attacked Demi Moore My mother moved to Harlan County from Pike County at around age 12 and never left except to attend college. These folks are Harlan Countians, but they dont like it. I love your article! Were still Harlan Countians. I was just in Harlan County this weekend. While not as corrupt as his predecessor Boyle, he seems on his way down that pathor not. Like anywhere else, you have to hope to you dont cross paths with the bad ones at the wrong time. I would sometimes go out and spend a month or two with my grandparents and spend some nights with other family members in Harlan and Bell counties. Its nice to read good thoughts of Harlan County. Pingback: ALL ABOARD THE NERVE GAS TRAIN! Scott describes the murder of Lawrence Jones by Billy Bruner. I was born in Pike County but grew up in Flatwoods in Greenup County. why dont u come back?i know why ,because it is to political and if your not a doctor or a lawyer or have plenty of money ,you aint shit yeah the mountains are nice and this is a beautiful place, but if you aint in the click you aint shit and thats the way it really is you just like the bloody harlan shit and it makes you look BADASS to tell people your from here .your a joke dude and quit livin off a place that you evidentally really no nothin about ..post this DUMBASS . The children of Harlan are blessed to have such a nice school. And should I know you? Glad I did not move here and my kids there, My children have been able to say they are from Eastern Ky as both were born down there. I found the search function and found the story. John I graduated in 71 from JACHS. I still have family in Cawood and Baxter but I dont get up there much.. Jennifer, I moved to the Tampa Bay area when I was four and a half. The field is backdropped by some beautiful mountains, right at Tunnel Hill. Oh the cheese made the best grilled cheese, My wife from Ohio and my 2 children even loved it. I live across the mountains from Harlan in a little off the map place called Leatherwood in perry county. Born and raised in Cumberland.I live in Florida now loved your article.Proud of my roots! We lived the last house in the head of the holler with my poppy and granny our only neighbors. Im sure youd know if you were related. Regardless, they came back. It captured the essence of Jimmy. And to the ones that moved away (say to the north) or wherever, it shows very little respect and class to put down the place you came from. It is my hometown by choice.I love it, I retired from Ky Dept of Trans (engineering). I am so grateful to the educators in Harlan who worked so diligently to open our minds, expand our thinking and develop our talents especially in music. A convenient store replaced the gas station and stores. She married a coal miner who also was educated and chose that life. I guess Ive waited too many years to ask, but it would be nice if someone knew of him or my other Grandfather Bill Randolph. Rest assured that no one in my family considers me a disgrace or embarrassment, but your concern is noted. Loved Justified. I am a Harlan Countian, born in Harlan at the old hospital as they call it. If someone tells you that he or she is from Harlan, they could mean any town from Pathforkto Holmes Mill to Cumberland to Cranks. I went to Cumberland College, Austin Peay Univ for my first masters, Trevecca University for my doctorate, second masters, and administrative certification. Harlan County, USA Where you from?..Pike Countylol. I enjoyed your blog ..I too left Harlan to find work ..I recently got turned down for a job doing private duty nurses aide for a new client because I was from Harlan ..The job interview started out very well until she ask where I was from I had an accent 24 years later I still have that accent I think she was worried I was packing a gun..to funny ..love my Harlan county roots ..from Wallins.. ..Oh yeah agree with everyone loved that Gov, cheese. 62 (10) 1 Playing statistics correct to the end of 1921. They go to other parts of the state or country and live as ex-Harlan Countians. A miner was I raised my daughter hereBTW she has owned a successful swimming pool and fence company here for 35 yrs. I think they graduated in the same class at Cawood. WebA coal miner silhouetted and barely visible in the darkness of a coal mine calls out a warning three times, fire-in-the-hole, the words all run together melodiously, letting all know hes about to detonate an explosion.So begins HARLAN COUNTY USA, 1976, 104 minutes Directed by Barbara Kopple, Winner Academy Award for Best Feature Documentary 1976. NOTE TO SELF: Dont move to Ages,Ky,Home of Brookside Mine, during a strike. Heres my personal map of the area: This seemingly random boundary results in some folks calling it Southeastern Kentucky which, geographically speaking, is more accurate. Art worked in one of the maintenance departments (cant remember which one). I have got too much time and information invested in my research to keep up with to just ignore my research. In fact, I got up this morning with the intent or renewing my research. Thanks for the comments. He tell the difference between bills by touch. Moo-ron. I was born and raised in Harlan, KY a lil place called Sunshine. I am now in Knoxville tn, happy as a proud old grandpa can be, and thankful the good Lord saw fit to bring me through times i cant tell about. I was raised in Wallins Creek and Cumberland by my Mamaw as a child. I knew that truly dangerous people dont threaten much. Dont say we are not eastern Kentuckians because we dont speak your slang, or live the life that people from harlin county do. Everything is right on! Bloody Harlan is just badass. She taught Home Ec, but also taught other classes. Much later in life we got married and we were on vacation going south to visit her sister who lived back home. Dickens said it best . Why? A striking coal miner was in critical condition last night in Harlan County, Ky., after being struck in the head by a shotgun blast. It was the latest violent incident in Harlan County, long a scene of labor unrest. as differences, real ones, but the rest is a little over stated, like JUSTIFIED, eh? JACHS did not open until the 66 67 school year. No matter where Ive traveled in this great country, I never fail to meet someone that is either from Harlan, or knows someone that lives there!! (LogOut/ Most of them have never even been to Ky let alone Harlan. Im happy living here. Thanks again for the good read. My Dad and his six siblings were all raised in Evarts. Ive been trying to read up on as much as I can on the people in the documentary. Janice and I were both switchboard operators and admissions clerk. Read my post about growing up in Loyall sometime. My Pappaw Creech was a coal miner, as were most of his brothers. I owned a genteel little social club called THE CLIFFHANGER up on pine mountain, and had some of the finest folks i ever knew as customers, although mostly they considered the Garys crowd a little on the gentler side. inside lacrosse schedule; bradley county 911 active incidents; dodgers home run seats menu; what happened to brittany on the jeff kuhner show. I wanted more for my kids and wife. Moved to Lynch in the summer of 1969. Disability checks. Harlan County, USA is not only a great documentary, but a great film. We went to the movies most weekends and to every football and basketball game. She was one of my favorite. Of course, theres a downside. An outlander is someone who used to live in Harlan. We know trash when we see it, and Im not talking about garbage pick up. No as in stop, do not, negative, etc and nothin slang for nothing not anything; no single thing; having no prospect of progress; of no value; not at all. It was an old theater whose best days had long past. Nimrod Workman. Its a nice place. In Atlanta, some of the New Yorkers that worked with me at the ad agency used to continually ask me where I was from just to hear me say it. Before we started, I told the court reporter that Ive been told I have an accent of some kind. She always bought some, even though she was never sure if doing so was legal. Some are like me. I was born and raised in Floyd County,I always heard my family came out of Harlan or Harlan County over a hundred years ago.I dont know if there are any STAPLETON family in Harlan anymore,I am proud to be from the HILLS OF KENTUCKY !! Did you know Jimmy C. Morgan? Bad-ass wasnt the first word to come to mind, but I sure didnt want to mess with those folk! Billy G. Williams. I do think this is good stuff. Web8.what happened to basil collins kentucky Author: t4wkr.ac.th Post date: 22 yesterday Rating: 3 (1965 reviews) Highest rating: 4 Low rated: 1 Summary: January 30, 1868, Absolutely loved this!! I have lived here all my life and even tho at times i feel like due to work i may have to leave, i doubt i ever could. It was a movie experience like no other. My little brother had a knife pulled on him at Cawood. Harlan is tough. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN HARLAN,CO. My maternal grandparents grew up in Black Star coal camp and Papaw taught at Hall High. WebIn his new introduction to the reissue of Harlan Miners Speak, an on-the-scene report from a panel of writers about the coal strike in Bell and Harlan Counties, John Hennen skillfully explains the precipitating factors of the labor unrest. Yes I remember you, vaguely, it has been a long time. Harlan County I didnt like a lot of your article, some of it is accurate. Harlan is total badass. It still is in some ways, although it has been many years since the United Mine Workers Association held great sway. Okay, now Im homesick! I live in Lee Co,Ky. Harlan County Im from Loyall. My children are fascinated and perhaps slightly horrified that I grew up in Harlan. Well written and interesting. I must say it is a great read. This excludes Boyd, Greenup, Lewis, etc. Like to have all the money I spent in those places back! So, I guess Im just arguing it is in the wrong state To the men that worked at the Highsplint mine, where the majority of filming took place for the documentary, he was the one responsible for making sure Basil and his men got through to work every day. Yes. Ironically, my daughter found a boyfriend from Loyal(the ones in Georgetown are apparently not her type) so she visits him a lot.
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